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    Your film homework for Zeroville
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    dirtworship



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    PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    FYI everyone:

    I'm going through the film list and adding page numbers (of first reference) and film year. Won't be done for tonight, but will let you know when it's done.
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    PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Jeff, I think you missed one.
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    PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Heh. You're right, though. Apparently Jules and Jim might be alluded to at some point, Erickson seemed unsure in an interview. And I love that one.
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    PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Jules and Jim??? That one???

    In the 80 or so pages I've done so far, more than one was missed. There is A LOT LOT LOT of Hollywood going on in this book. You notice it all the more when you start counting instances on each page...
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    PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I thought one of the first movies that Vicar worked on was "On a Clear Day You Can See Forever" too, but I believe the Vincente Minnelli reincarnation movie he's referring to is actually "Goodbye Charlie" (1964) with Tony Curtis
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    PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Also, I may have missed them on the original list, but "A Woman Under the Influence" and "The Killing of a Chinese Bookie" are referenced when he meets John Cassavetes "a famously renegade director trying to get another feature off the ground...". Chp. 97 Pg 92
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    PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Inspired by Zeroville, I've been gradually plowing through a number of classics for the first time. Next up is "The Big Sleep".

    Over the past two days I watched "The Birth of a Nation". I expected it to be a bit uncomfortable, having heard that it was sympathetic to the KKK, but it started innocuous enough. Griffith introduced it with a line to the effect that he was trying to portray the misery and horror of war. "Noble enough", I thought. And the first half wasn't so bad, mostly showing the effects of the war.

    Then it got to Reconstruction.

    I have never seen a film (or book or anything else) make such claims to fidelity to real history and then present such dispicable distortions. It was like watching Star Wars with Klansmen in the Luke Skywalker / Han Solo roles. If you didn't know any better, you'd leave the movie thinking "Thank God the KKK was there to save those benevolent whites from those treacherous blacks." Even more disturbing was learning afterwards that this was the most popular silent film of all time and that it substantially influenced the popular understanding of Reconstruction history. Revolting.

    OK, rant over. Have a great weekend. Smile
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